Last night, I decided to watch The O'Reilly Factor, because Jon Stewart was going to be on, and I wanted to see him verbally kick O'Reilly's ass. In this I was not disappointed. However, in order to see the first part of the interview, I had to sit through about twenty minutes of show. Twenty rage-inducing minutes.
The show started off with O'Reilly talking about a DailyKos poll which found that 39% percent of self-identified Republicans believe that Obama should be impeached, 63% believe that Obama is a socialist, and only 42% believe that Obama was born in the US. He questions the validity of the poll, saying: "Don't get too excited, their polls aren't usually accurate. Their poll in Massachusetts had the Senate race too close to call." Because pre-election opinion polls always neatly mirror the results of the elections. Margin of error? What's that?
O'Reilly brings Karl Rove on. Rove talks about how Obama has a "thin skin" and can't stand to have people criticizing him. Then he talks about how the polling firm who conducted the DailyKos poll had Martha Coakley beating Scott Brown in the Massachutsetts senate race. (...wait, I thought it was 'too close to call'? Are they talking about different polls?)
Then Rove mentions "an interesting poll" where someone tallied the amount of profanity used on liberal and conservative blogs, and how DailyKos was at the top of the list for the liberal blogs. WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYHING.
Rove: "We're being lectured to about what's appropriate by people, who, y'know generate four-letter-words on their blog all the time."
OH NOES, NOT DIRTY WORDS. Using dirty words obviously precludes any sort of intelligent or thoughtful commentary, and therefore everything the DailyKos says is irrelevant and untrue!
Then, Karl Rove questions the methodology of the study:
Rove: They just simply said: 'Do you think President Obama was born in the United States?' Only 30% said 'no he wasn't.' But by saying your choices are: 'Yes he was', 'No, he wasn't', or 'I don't know', I mean, they sort of drove things to these-*gets cut off by O'Reilly...who agrees with him*
The reason those were listed as the only choices was because THEY WERE THE ONLY CHOICES! Either you believe the president was born in the United States, or you don't (or you don't know). There are no other answers, unless you think that President was born in some sort of extra-dimensional netherworld which technically occupies the same space as some part of the United States, in which case 'I don't know' still pretty neatly covers things.
Rove again: "Part of what we get in this poll is there's no cost in saying 'yeah, I don't like what the president's doing.' There's no cost, particularly when you start putting in a whole series of these negative comments in there and allow people to just bloviate."
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
I think what Rove was trying to say was that, given the anonymity of the participants of opinion polls, they could have just lied their asses off and said they thought Obama was born outside the U.S. just for a lark and/or because they were angry at the president, knowing that there wouldn't be any consequences. If so, that's a danger in any poll, and can't really be used as a specific criticism of this one. Plus, I doubt that a few people giving false answers would have a significant impact on this poll (although I have no idea how many people were involved).
Then Rove starts talking about how people from all levels of the political spectrum have criticized the president. I still have no idea what this has to do with the poll in question, because the poll is not about criticizing Obama, it's about the prevalence of belief in obvious falsehoods about him. O'Reilly says something about how the point of the poll is to demonize Tea Party people and anyone who's not a liberal.
At this point, I realized I was only eight minutes into the show and I was already yelling at the TV screen. I did manage to get through the remaining amount of show before the interview, but if I ranted about every other stupid thing that was said during that time, this entry would be an even bigger mass of tl;dr.
Congratulations Bill (and Karl)...I had no idea it was possible to cram that much stupidity into eight minutes of airtime. Well done.
The show started off with O'Reilly talking about a DailyKos poll which found that 39% percent of self-identified Republicans believe that Obama should be impeached, 63% believe that Obama is a socialist, and only 42% believe that Obama was born in the US. He questions the validity of the poll, saying: "Don't get too excited, their polls aren't usually accurate. Their poll in Massachusetts had the Senate race too close to call." Because pre-election opinion polls always neatly mirror the results of the elections. Margin of error? What's that?
O'Reilly brings Karl Rove on. Rove talks about how Obama has a "thin skin" and can't stand to have people criticizing him. Then he talks about how the polling firm who conducted the DailyKos poll had Martha Coakley beating Scott Brown in the Massachutsetts senate race. (...wait, I thought it was 'too close to call'? Are they talking about different polls?)
Then Rove mentions "an interesting poll" where someone tallied the amount of profanity used on liberal and conservative blogs, and how DailyKos was at the top of the list for the liberal blogs. WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYHING.
Rove: "We're being lectured to about what's appropriate by people, who, y'know generate four-letter-words on their blog all the time."
OH NOES, NOT DIRTY WORDS. Using dirty words obviously precludes any sort of intelligent or thoughtful commentary, and therefore everything the DailyKos says is irrelevant and untrue!
Then, Karl Rove questions the methodology of the study:
Rove: They just simply said: 'Do you think President Obama was born in the United States?' Only 30% said 'no he wasn't.' But by saying your choices are: 'Yes he was', 'No, he wasn't', or 'I don't know', I mean, they sort of drove things to these-*gets cut off by O'Reilly...who agrees with him*
The reason those were listed as the only choices was because THEY WERE THE ONLY CHOICES! Either you believe the president was born in the United States, or you don't (or you don't know). There are no other answers, unless you think that President was born in some sort of extra-dimensional netherworld which technically occupies the same space as some part of the United States, in which case 'I don't know' still pretty neatly covers things.
Rove again: "Part of what we get in this poll is there's no cost in saying 'yeah, I don't like what the president's doing.' There's no cost, particularly when you start putting in a whole series of these negative comments in there and allow people to just bloviate."
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
I think what Rove was trying to say was that, given the anonymity of the participants of opinion polls, they could have just lied their asses off and said they thought Obama was born outside the U.S. just for a lark and/or because they were angry at the president, knowing that there wouldn't be any consequences. If so, that's a danger in any poll, and can't really be used as a specific criticism of this one. Plus, I doubt that a few people giving false answers would have a significant impact on this poll (although I have no idea how many people were involved).
Then Rove starts talking about how people from all levels of the political spectrum have criticized the president. I still have no idea what this has to do with the poll in question, because the poll is not about criticizing Obama, it's about the prevalence of belief in obvious falsehoods about him. O'Reilly says something about how the point of the poll is to demonize Tea Party people and anyone who's not a liberal.
At this point, I realized I was only eight minutes into the show and I was already yelling at the TV screen. I did manage to get through the remaining amount of show before the interview, but if I ranted about every other stupid thing that was said during that time, this entry would be an even bigger mass of tl;dr.
Congratulations Bill (and Karl)...I had no idea it was possible to cram that much stupidity into eight minutes of airtime. Well done.
I am feeling:
aggravated
aggravated+


annoyed
pissed off
angry
bored
exhausted
artistic
cheerful
cold
weird
anxious
busy
confused
thirsty
crushed